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I found this wiki through googling the infamous sup jew image, wondering if anyone knows about that one image that was popular on twitter recently of the two people cosplaying I believe stan and kyle? captioned "damn it (one of their names)"
I wasnt a sp fan when it blew up again so I don't know who exactly it was but I know the image is probably between 10-20 years old by now and it was posted to deviantart
Also, DO NOT ASK FOR THE SHIPPING PAGES TO GET BACK!
They got banned for a reason.
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To be honest, I find it both funny and hypocritical that the majority of the South Park Fandom (even some that claim to be more progressive than Trey & Matt) hate how the girls are always acting like teenagers but not only do they portray the girls in the same way they criticize Trey & Matt of doing but they seem to almost always turn the blind eye whenever the boys are acting like teenagers, which, in my opinion, is basically another case of sexist double standard.
Feel free to disagree with me if you like.
Favorite Season: Season 11
Favorite Character: Jimmy Valmer
Favorite Episode: Make Love, Not Warcraft
Favorite (canon) Pairing: Stendy
Favorite Song: Blame Canada
Least Favorite Season: Season 20/Season 23
Least Favorite Character: Ms. Crabtree
Least Favorite Episode: Jakovsaurus
Least Favorite (canon) Pairing: Heiman
OTP (One True Pairing): Jitters
Most Liked: Nedbo/Yentlman
Most Neutral: Stephandy
Most Disliked: Heiman
NOTP: Candy
Fluffy Pairing: Mackson
Guilty Pleasure: Michraig
BROTP: Style
Just Friends: Bugie
Most Overrated: Kyman
Most Underrated: Pitters
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I watched this episode last night (S6E15) and it reminded me of the "Can your science explain why it rains?" scene! Is it just me?
I just recently rewatched Butterballs and only now understood that the episode was a satire of KONY 2012, if you’re old enough to remember that.
Also hey, I’m back. It’s been a while hasn’t it? In case you don’t remember, I’m Jaker. I’m the kid with the spicy hot takes and lover of South Park analasis.
Well, I'm from the BFDI wiki, I left, and now I'm trying to find another community to fill its void.
Also, MS Paint Cartman...
The most retched creature in existence.
1) hell queen: in hell, damien complains to pip about his responsibilities as overlord of hell, and how the royal court people/demons are making him marry someone with royal blood to solidify his claim since he doesn't actually look that much like his father whom everyone also knew to be gay. he appoints pip to be his fiancee's personal chaperon, since she only recently arrived in hell and needs help adjusting to the culture. pip meets the princess who turns out to be queen elizibeth ii who pip is a massive fan of. pip escorts the queen around and listens to her struggles as a royal, and how she too is being forced into the marriage. despite pip's efforts, she is slowly driven insane by all the strange customs that are only slightly different than the ones she is used to. meanwhile, damien takes a dna test and learns that satan is not his father, and tries a variety of things to legitimize himself without resorting to going through with the marriage. a series of barbara walters interviews with the royal couple adds additional stress and bad pr to the situation. diamond (that trump lady that died) has some conspiracy theories about them, and finds a way to blame damien for her own death. growing desperate, the queen asks pip to betray damien, and help her escape. pip has to choose to help his queen, or his best friend. pip eventually tells damien, who uses it as an excuse to arrest the queen so that he doesn't have to marry her. damien uses violence to rule over hell, while pip goes to save the queen. the queen then finds and rides a giant dragon over to destroy damien's castle, and rule over hell by herself. damien gives up, and goes back to the surface to be a normal kid.
2) gender offender: butters is cringy, yet popular on tiktok, and the other boys are impressed by his follower count, but are confused after watching his videos. they figure out that his main audience is the girls and the new clique of non-binary kids at school, which displeases butters. kyle recommends that he make tiktoks that teach other boys how to be as successful as him on the app. butters starts making get-rich-quick/hustle type videos while trying to act more tough and masculine (now sporting sunglasses and a shaved head). his tiktoks become increasingly sexist and anti-non-binary, and his original fans turn against him, even though his tips for success endorse all the cringy effeminate tiktok stuff that that crowd liked. he gains a cult-like following from the boys who act effeminately based on his tips, while also calling girls bitches and sluts. they have to distinguish themselves from the non-binary kids by calling them "non-bi" and themselves "bi". they all compliment eachother on how good they are at getting girls, despite the girls hating all of them. kyle sees what's happening and chooses to stay authentic, and starts hanging out with the non-bi kids. meanwhile the parents discover the growing conflict, and claim that its cause is "toxic non-binarity", and cartman insisting that they're bi does nothing to help clarify. pc principle gets fired, lgbtq+ books are burned, and tiktok gets banned. butters moves to onlyfans, and shows the other boys how to be successful on it by making workout videos that share a striking resemblance to gay erotica. in the end, butters is arrested for grooming, and kyle explains to everyone that hustle culture is what is to blame, and has always been turning kids into degenerate sluts for fame and success.
3) dances with smurfs 2: wakanda forever: cartman and butters are filming "dances with smurfs 2" at starks pond as cartman complains about how jews in hollywood won't finance any of his movies. then kanye west (maybe in his "fractured but whole" fish form) comes out of the water and thinks cartman's movie sounds really cool, and cartman relays all his problems with powerful jewish producers. kanye decides to finance him but only if he can make some changes to the script. cartman casts kyle and other kids he doesn't like to play the role of evil colonists, while kanye replaces cartman as the main protagonist, and casts his gay fish friends as the secret underwater kingdom who must defend themselves. confusing the concepts of moral good, being rich and successful, and being good at music, kanye accidentally writes the good guys as nazis, and the colonists as victims. when kyle complains, kanye claims he can't be anti-semitic because he himself is jewish due to the fact he is now a powerful producer, just like the jews cartman had complained about. meanwhile, cartman is also pissed about the changes, and goes to hollywood to pitch his original script. in the end, cartman runs out of money to go home, and has to begrudgingly sell his movie to james cameron, who turns it into "avatar 2". kanye sells his version to marvel, which turns it into "wakanda forever", and kanye also takes cartman's profits, since he still owned the rights to both versions.
4) wendy wednesday: wendy suspects stan of cheating (on his homework) and is distressed about it. she seeks help from henrietta due to broody outcast girls being inherently good at detective work. henrietta shows her how stan might be using "chatgpt" like what most of the kids are doing. they break into the school to gather evidence, then discover top secret documents in garrison's desk. they slowly uncover a school system wide conspiracy that all the teachers are part of, and chatgpt is at the center of. they take the story to the media, but the media also uses chatgpt to write their news stories, and the articles it writes all focus on the fact that secret documents were kept at the school rather than what they found in those documents. wendy keeps using "velma" style self aware meta humor to describe their situation, and henrietta keeps getting annoyed by it. in the end they have to use self aware comedy to make chatgpt self-aware so that they can convince it to turn against its creators.
what's you guys' hopes, fears, and predictions for s26? here's my list:
1. the hotdog is here for the long haul. my theory here is that they will want to use the hotdog as a surrogate whenever they want to say something about their experience running casa bonita. there will surely be an episode where the cartmans turn their home back into a hotdog restaurant, and if not them, perhaps someone else will buy and restore it.
2. tegridy will die. the amount of acknowledgement of the issues with tegridy in "the streaming wars part 2" makes me think they have to follow up with some kind of turning point for randy's character, even if they did play the whole take-backsies with it by the end. plus they'd still have credigree if they keep wanting to do weed farm stuff.
3. a tate episode. this just seems obvious. according to the media, the new pandemic is that a bunch of children are now radicalized hyper-misogynists with a cult like devotion to some bald guy in hungary. clearly the show can do something with this premise, or parody it with butters as andrew tate.
4. a valentine's day episode. they didn't do one last year, but now we're about to be in february again, so why not? i don't have any shippy expectations here, but it would make sense for there to be some kind of stendy stuff. bonus points if the tate episode IS the valentine's day episode.
5. a girl boss detective episode. given the amount of attention the show "wednesday" has received (as well as "velma", its mephesto-clone counterpart), they might do something like it, maybe with either wendy or henrietta.
6. gurls. this kinda flows from the previous three, but more broadly i suspect we're going to get more from the girls, likely heather williams in particular because child labor allow them to- i mean it's because her voice actress is someone trey likes working with.
7. an "avatar 2"/"wakanda forever" parody episode. i haven't seen either of these, but i know they both involve wet people. maybe there's more jakovasaurs in stark's pond, or something else there, or maybe cartman makes a new "dances with smurfs" movie.
8. a kanye episode. the whole thing of black anti-semitism and psudo-history has so much going on, i wish they would do like 5 episodes on the topic. even if they don't want to go in depth on it, the temptation to make fun of kanye west (again) will be irresistible. bonus points if he's the thing in stark's pond, and they have to fight his gay nazi fish kingdom, wakanda forever style.
9. ike holds a gun. this is america. we don't take kindly to parents who don't let their toddlers play with loaded firearms. i don't see this as a basis for a full blown episode but it's a visual too good not to slip into the background at least.
10. it'll be better than last season. s25 was kinda trash, so i'm not setting my expectations super high, but they really don't have an excuse this time around. yipee!
I did talk in the past about South Park becoming more about Randy but I feel like the show feels samey nowadays? What was good about South Park was the fact that it was an obviously adult show disguised as a kids show, heck, South Park even got compared to Peanuts of all things in its early days, and even though, some adults were major characters and the show never had a consistent main character, the boys were still the central focus both in the show itself, official art and merchandising.
Unfortunately, seems like the show being more about Randy ruins the main purpose of what made South Park great in the first place, look, I’m not going to pretend that the earlier seasons were masterpieces, because they weren’t but at least they didn’t look like every single adult show ever, nowadays, it’s about yet another idiot dad who does stupids things, seriously, it’s really becoming just another cartoon focused on a family and for a show that once criticized Family Guy for being formulaic, they’re doing the same thing except that Family Guy usually follows the "idiot dad as main character" trope with Peter for fun and gives room for other characters to shine like Brian, Lois, Chris, Stewie and even Meg while South Park follows this trope in such a way that sideline all the characters that aren’t Randy or Cartman(in fact, even Cartman stopped becoming a proper main character after the writers started giving him more sympathetic qualities).
But anyways, I want to hear your thoughts!
I was wondering, and this bugs me all the time: Why is the slow-motion animation in the series 60 frames per second, AKA so smooth like butter, while regular animation's like a stop-motion vid made by StikBots (About 24 FPS)?
Is someone able to explain this for me?
Tweened stop-slow-motion man punching a dad, infecting him with the slow-tween virus
Choppy animation
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Look, I’m not saying that the South Park fandom was smaller and more niche before, of course there was a lot of active fan artists and fanfic writers who discussed the characters and shipping of the show before 2015 but Seasons 19-23 actually revived the general public’s interest in the show and Randy’s popularity might have been a huge reason why.
I've been active on other wikis a lot
Kinda forgot about this place lol
What has been happening lately
I will probably do a three parter marathon debunking people’s claims about the boys’ characterization and that the show has a consistent canon.
I recently found an interesting post that "debunks" common stereotypes associated with Style and here I am ready to give my own thoughts on them.
https://yumkippur.tumblr.com/post/93077973800/so-whats-your-input-on-the-bootyful-fanfictions
I personally agree with most of the points so I’m going to mainly discuss Super Sensitive Kyle because I strongly disagree with those takes so let’s start, shall we?
"Fanon Kyle is easily insulted and often insecure and overly-emotional. I think this might be some people’s way of trying to translate his short-temper into their own words, or they’re trying really hard to project their own feelings onto him, but it’s gross and I want it to stop."
Dear God, how is gross to acknowledge that a character from a hardly consistent show can show emotions too? And who cares? People are allowed to write what they want and you can’t really stop them.
"In ‘Here Comes the Neighborhood’, he cooly explains to Token that everyone has something they get picked on for and no one should be a pussy about it (I’m guessing he means that the proper response is anger- typical nine year old)."
Seriously? You’re using an OLD ASS episode back when Kyle had even less personality than he has today to back up your claims? What does that even mean?
"He does show some insecurity in a few episodes- like when he thought he was voted ugliest kid in the class, but rather than shutting down and getting depressed about it, in his typical fashion, he gets angry (and tries to burn the school down)."
Okay but South Park doesn’t give a shit about "canon" characterization and besides The List(which was an episode where Kyle actually learns from his mistakes) and season 21(which was a very messily written season where even sympathetic characters such as Stan, Wendy and Nichole were shown to be douchebags btw), I don’t recall any episode where he tries to kill someone because of his insecurities and early seasons episodes don’t count because he was literally a flat character back then.
"Kyle generally isn’t emotional. Stan’s the sensitive one in that meaning."
This is the same Stan that laughed at gossips in "Bass to the mouth" and rarely shows empathy and concern towards his own girlfriend Wendy, I’m not saying that Stan is a bad person but his personality is NOT 100% specific, there’s plenty of episodes where Kyle is the one to show sympathy towards others while Stan doesn’t care and vice versa, this show is not like My Little Pony, the characters aren’t defined by one single trait.
"It’s safer to say that Kyle is a little emotionally-distant. He can sympathize with someone once they’ve explained to him what’s wrong, and he’s gone out of his way to help people who’re having tough times (Free Willyz, Night of the Living Homeless, Crack Babies, etc), but he seems to have trouble noticing when there’s an emotional problem (Assburgers episode), and he can’t comprehend letting tough times get in the way of living life (Rasins- goth!Stan episode). So, while Kyle has the capacity to be understanding, he does lack some empathy."
Are you really using TWO episodes as an example that Kyle canonically lacks empathy and sympathy? One which is a REALLY OLD episode and the other is an episode where the characters were mainly used to move the plot forward?
Kyle is NOT emotionally distant, also, you only used three examples where he is shown to be be empathetic, how about The Jeffersons episode? How about the Bass to Mouth episode? The Toilet Paper episode? Or even the Butters’ bottom bitch episode? Heck, how about almost every single episode where Kyle is shown to care for Ike?(I also find rather ironic how those people claim that Kyle is insensitive and yet ignore that he is protective of Ike because of "Kick the baby").
"When it comes to sensitivity as far as how Kyle treats people, the fandom makes him way too kind."
No, no, no, no and NO! I rarely see people making Kyle "too kind" unless it’s a Style aged up fanfic or a high school fanfic, the majority of people that I’ve encountered during 2019-2020 thought of Kyle as an anger driven asshole who only cares about fighting with Cartman.
And who cares about what the fandom thinks? As I said, this show has ZERO canon consistency!
"While he almost always fights for just causes, he can be just as ruthless with his insults as Cartman and like I said, he doesn’t always practice sympathy."
I think you’re secretly a Kyman shipper/hj
But in all seriousness, you’re right, Kyle doesn’t always practice sympathy because this show is not fucking character driven, none of the characters have consistent traits unless it’s relevant to the plot, for example, Kenny McCormick can either be a dirty, horny kid or a kind and heroic boy or sometimes an innocent, pure kid who can’t do no wrong yet the fandom stubbornly insists that there’s one way to portray him.
"I think the Style fandom is really missing out on some lovely clueless Kyle looking to Stan to keep him on the right path"
So you admit that your own personal interpretation of the characters is the only right way? Again, the show doesn’t have a proper canon and never will.
Also, how Kyle is lovely clueless? He was the one who approached most of his love interests and is more of a ladies man than Stan.
This is sad because it was mostly a good analysis but moral of the story; South Park is rarely if ever consistent and you shouldn’t try to apply canon to the show because there isn’t really.
I feel like ever since 2015, a new breed of South Park fans was introduced. (I’m not talking about fujoshis because they’ve been in the fandom ever since 1998 or so).Those fans are usually in certain fandom spaces such as Amino, Twitter, TikTok and even some gated communities on Discord, they’re almost always under 16 and have some weird takes about the characters(mostly Kyle), those kids are against anything that is fun, tend to accuse anyone of being a "pedo", even if they’re doing something silly and harmless such as shipping their OC with a Canon Character and keep policing other people’s works.
They’re obsessed with Creek, usually defend Cartman and think he’s some kind of precious uwu bean, they also always play the victim/age card when confronted, most of those kids tend to worship Kenny a lot and some of them even think that adults shouldn’t watch South Park.
And the fact that they make a good portion of the creative side of the South Park fandom nowadays certainly don’t help matters.
4 south park funko pops They were stick of truth cartman, kyle,stan and butters!!! im so happy when i got them and now im happy i have them!
cartman came saturday, stan came yesterday and kyle and butters were SUPPOSED to come next week but i lucked out and got them with stan
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